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Willy Van Driessche Wednesday 26 Feb 2020 17:12:47
https://www.plotaroute.com/tip/33/ten-great-route-planning-tools-for-cyclists
Item: 5. Abbreviated Route Directions & Prevent truncated textlabels.
Suggestion:
Leave text space at file export into the name tag, depending on file type.
tcx file: Max 10 character.
fit file: Max 16 character.
gpx file: No limit but, advised is 21 max.
Label panel @ edit.
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Peter Höglund Wednesday 26 Feb 2020 20:59:24
From plotaroute generated fit files, I now have one route with 32 char name and several others with 30-31 char names in my fenix 6x.
It's really great that I can differentiate similar routes with words that I understand than use code like abbreviations.
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Willy Van Driessche Thursday 27 Feb 2020 09:03:21
Nice that you like the Plotaroute file name result, but this is about the name tagging in Coursepoints (gpx=wpt).
By Plotaroute @ file export the tcx and fit Coursepoint (gpx=wpt) name limitation is 10 characters. For tcx is the standard, but can be extended as suggested for fit (16) and gpx wpt (no limit) (rwgps anyway recommands 21 max). By the Point Label edit Panel @ file export the name tag can be individualised, but this seems ONLY to be effective for gpx ! Anyway still has that same 10 character limit.
Examples: Individual Point Edit Panel.
By tcx.
<CoursePoint>
<Name>0123456789</Name>
<Time>2020-02-27T00:01:37Z</Time>
<Position>
<LatitudeDegrees>51.0540266</LatitudeDegrees>
<LongitudeDegrees>4.0002026</LongitudeDegrees>
</Position>
<PointType>Generic</PointType>
<Notes>0123456789ABCDEF012345890ABCDEF</Notes>
</CoursePoint>
By fit. (Binary extract = name)
0123456789
By gpx.
<wpt lat="51.0540266" lon="4.0002026">
<time>2020-02-27T00:01:37Z</time>
<name>TEXT IN NA</name>
<cmt>0123456789ABCDEF012345890ABCDEF</cmt>
<desc>0123456789ABCDEF012345890ABCDEF</desc>
<sym>Flag, Blue</sym>
</wpt>
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plotaroute admin Thursday 27 Feb 2020 09:42:47
Hi Willy - I think people have reported problems in the past with longer names in GPX files but we can trial it with a 21 character limit to see how that goes. Do you have a link to the documentation that says names in FIT files can be up to 16 characters long?
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Peter Höglund Thursday 27 Feb 2020 11:19:13
Sorry, misunderstood it for course name when you where talking about course point description/name.
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Willy Van Driessche Thursday 27 Feb 2020 15:05:05
@ John.
Source:
Posted by Dom McIntyre Wednesday 28 Aug 2019 10:53:49
https://www.plotaroute.com/posts/102/D/1
(I did not have a look into the very complicated docs)
Is 16 max an advise ? Or is there no (technical) limitation ?
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Willy Van Driessche Thursday 27 Feb 2020 20:06:29
Quote: "I think people have reported problems in the past with longer names in GPX files but we can trial it with a 21 character limit to see how that goes"
To prevent troubles (older gps units) I suggest to keep the automatic generated direction name text tags unchanged to the actual character limit.
It would be sufficent to extend name text only manual by the Point Edit "Label Panel". A colorised Label Panel (first post) indicates limits for used file type. Roger ?
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plotaroute admin Monday 02 Mar 2020 07:58:36
Unfortunately that would be significantly more work to implemement Willy. I think we would need to do some testing on different devices before we could increase the character limits, to be more sure about any potential impact.
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Willy Van Driessche Monday 02 Mar 2020 16:46:01
Ok John.
As I can edit the exported gpx file (my most important format) quite well, no problem to keep export "as is". Tnks anyway for considering. Case closed.
Willy.
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Willy Van Driessche Tuesday 17 Mar 2020 16:53:59
Some extra information is published here:
https://www.expertgps.com/
By item supported gps > Select your unit.
Find total characters in waypoints, description.
Example:
Garmin Edge: Varies from 8 for old up to 32 characters for the most actual units.
