I'm with Mike on this. Plotaroute is BY FAR superior to Visorando in every way. If losing features like custom directions etc is the result, I will not renew or move.
If you do away with Plotaroute, there is no way I will move to Visorando. There are many other routing platforms which are better - but none of them is as good as Plotaroute.
Mike
Hi Steve, Hi Mark,
Thanks a lot for your detailed and honest feedback — we really appreciate it.
You're right that Visorando was originally built around walking, which is why you still see terms like “walk” across the platform. That said, the iOS and Android apps have already been updated with more neutral wording to better reflect a broader range of outdoor activities, and we’re continuing to bring the website in line with that.
The integration of Plotaroute is very much in progress. Our goal is to let users like you access the familiar Plotaroute route planner directly within Visorando, while also benefiting from the additional tools and features we offer.
We're also working on making the app more cycling-friendly, including improving bike routing and avoiding paths where cycling is not permitted.
@Mark - Thanks for the information regarding the maximum post size for images — we’ll look into it.
Fabien & Arnaud
My plot a route premium membership is up for renewal again. I use PR premium almost weekly to create cycling routes and ahve always made them public for others to use, I am not an active forum user anymore since the acquisition as a year ago I did try Visorando and didn't enjoy the experience before. So here I am one year later ready to give Visorando a go again. I am linked my accounts ages ago.
So I go into the Visorando website and straight away its all about "walks" .
The homepage is "Free walks library, route planner & outdoor GPS", all my routes are under the "My Walks" menu option, then I see "All my walks. Not a good start since I don't walk!
So I try to edit a ride "walk" . I find "edit track" but I can't understand at all how to edit a route, and I certainly can't see a way to select that I want the route optimised for cycling (ie don't send me down a footpath with no bike access).
I'm wondering, what aspect of Plot a Route HAVE you incorporated into Visorando so far? If you haven't even changed the word "walk" on the front page, I'm thinking you've done very little.
So in the last 3 years I spent $25, $26 and $27 each year (I assume USD, as it doesn't say).
All I can say is, at least it hasn't gone up. I will renew, but honestly, there is zero reason to switch to Visorando that I can see and to be honest, without Plot a Route development continuing, you're falling behind my alternatives.
Please do correct me and tell me that you actively encourage cyclists to use Visorando?????
Steve
Toni,
And to add .... before the aquisition, PR was developing a true moblile app, similar to Visorando, Komoot etc. It was in the earlystages of beta testing, and to be honest, was not what I hoped for.
Maybe this will be the best of both worlds .....
Fabien & Arnaud,
I believe that it's vital to have the user experience the same map in the mobile app as was used to create the route in the desktop application (or the equivalent mobile app, in PR's case). This was not done in the above mentioned PR beta mobile app.
As a cyclist, I am of course referring to the Cycle map, with this colouration:
I have not played with Visorando, yet, but I do hope this methodology is implemented.
Mark
ps, I originally posted a ~ 400 x 400 image, and got the message Maximum post size exceeded - avoid large images unless added as links. It's really frustrating not to be able to add a simple screen grab, especially when trying to help other users. Sometimes it let's me, sometimes not .....
Hi Toni,
We acquired Plotaroute for several reasons: its advanced features, its strong community, and its presence in the UK and internationally. We see Plotaroute and Visorando as complementary, one excelling in desktop route planning, the other offering a robust mobile experience on the ground.
Our goal is not to abandon Plotaroute, but rather to explore how the best features from each platform can enhance the overall experience for all users. Our main development efforts are focused on Visorando, where we aim to gradually incorporate the best ideas from both platforms. As always, user feedback will be central to how we move forward.
Fabien & Arnaud
CEO of Visorando
https://photos.app.goo.gl/AqrtWfdGNVEejxkE8
This image should work - showing hot to create Up Ahead points from Plaotaroute directions
I want to make sure I understand. You bought plotaroute so you could get all the goodies that are in it and put them in your own app, and plotaroute is being completely abandoned but -at the moment- is still available for those who prefer it.
It is possible to create Up Ahead points that sync to Garmin already
Plotaroute and Up Ahead points
Plot the route as normal.
To add a Garmin Up Ahead point, get the approximate area that you want the UA point to appear on sceen,
Click "Add" to add a new one and drag it to the position required, or click an existing direction and select "Edit"
Click "Turn Arrow" and select "None"
Click "Symbol" and then select the appropriate symbol, see the large diagram to map the PAR symbol to the appropriate Garmin UA point, and the diagram also shows you how it'll appear on the watch.
Save the custom direction, and repeat for all UA points.
Either use the direct sync if you have PAR Premium OR export the route as a FIT file, then copy it to /Garmin/Newfiles on the watch.
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for your kind words!
I'm compiling a list of all the requested features, from the Feature Requests list, but also from the different forum topics and posts.
I'll make sure to include this request as well. :)
All the best,
Julien