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Deleted User Wednesday 27 Jan 2016 13:18:53
I like to put a coursepoint on the summit of climbs . To do this I manually add one and it appears on my Garmin. I recently plotted a route that used the same summit in different directions. I found it impossible to add two coursepoints by manually dragging as it kept snapping.
Being able to manually set the distance to the coursepoint on the edit list would probably let me do this, rather than manually dragging. Would also be more exact as you can use the elevation window to get distances.
Is there another way to achieve this?
https://www.plotaroute.com/map/160319
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plotaroute admin Thursday 28 Jan 2016 06:43:05
One way to do this would be to zoom right in on the map and then use the Drag Mode (switch at top of map) to drag the points very slightly apart, so that you can select the right point more easily.
John
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Deleted User Thursday 28 Jan 2016 12:14:32
This approach worked OK, (had to turn off auto-plot to separate the routes). This is the same point as raised under "Editing directions - road used both ways".
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Deleted User Friday 23 Feb 2018 13:27:11
Is there a way, when manually adding a coursePoint, to make plotaroute use the Garmin supported set of PointType in the exported .tcx ? For example SUMMIT ?
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plotaroute admin Monday 26 Feb 2018 10:29:52
Hi Colin - sorry, there isn't currently any way to change the PointType symbol in downloaded course files. You're only option would be to download it as a TCX file and then manually edit it.
John
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Rob Williams Tuesday 23 Jul 2019 23:13:31
Sorry to resurrect this - is the ability to set the PointType of a CoursePoint in the development backlog somewhere? Would be really helpful, although I admit is only likely to be of interest to a very small subset of users! :)
Specifically:
plotaroute creates CoursePoints in this format for tcx export:
<CoursePoint>
<Name>CRTL2</Name>
<Time>2019-07-23T00:22:57Z</Time>
<Position>
<LatitudeDegrees>55.758773</LatitudeDegrees>
<LongitudeDegrees>-4.436865</LongitudeDegrees>
</Position>
<PointType>Generic</PointType>
<Notes>CRTL2</Notes>
</CoursePoint>
PointType is being set by the "Turn Arrow" options within the Add Directions menu. Options I think are left, right, and everything else maps to generic. Garmin Edge devices at least can display handy information using a range of other PointTypes, including Summit as Colin mentions below, food, water, danger (handy for cattle grids and main road crossings!), etc. (Annoyingly I can't find a full list anywhere, although happy to work one out if that would help).
Ideally other PointTypes would be available within the Turn Arrow popup.
Workaround is to set everything to Generic and use the name , but it's not quite as neat.
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Peter Höglund Wednesday 24 Jul 2019 07:04:35
At least for fit files the complete list of course point types are availible in ant fit sdk and I'm also really interested in this as I think is noted:)
- Generic = 0,
- Summit = 1,
- Valley = 2,
- Water = 3,
- Food = 4,
- Danger = 5,
- Left = 6,
- Right = 7,
- Straight = 8,
- FirstAid = 9,
- FourthCategory = 10,
- ThirdCategory = 11,
- SecondCategory = 12,
- FirstCategory = 13,
- HorsCategory = 14,
- Sprint = 15,
- LeftFork = 16,
- RightFork = 17,
- MiddleFork = 18,
- SlightLeft = 19,
- SharpLeft = 20,
- SlightRight = 21,
- SharpRight = 22,
- UTurn = 23,
- SegmentStart = 24,
- SegmentEnd = 25,
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plotaroute admin Wednesday 24 Jul 2019 09:54:14
We did made a change a little while ago to extend the range of symbols for waypoints in GPX files (to select the symbol type based on any symbols that have been added to the directions or the map) but we didn't apply this change to TCX/FIT course downloads for some reason. I can't recall why this was (possibly uncertainty about how this might affect devices that don't support the full range of PointTypes) but we can have another look into it. At present the PointType for course files is either:
Straight
Left
Right
GenericIt should be easy for us to extend this to include other turns (e.g. Slight Left, Sharp Left) and we could also set the PointType to something else on the list Peter has provided if a corresponding symbol from our symbol set has been added to the route directions. If the direction has both a turn and a symbol, the PointType would probably have to be based on the turn. It's possible that our TCX to FIT convertor would would need amending to support this, so that may have a bearing on how soon we can make the changes, but we'll look into it.
John
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Peter Höglund Wednesday 24 Jul 2019 12:53:53
Thanks, looking great that its in the plan.
One thing I would like to add to this is like in gpx download, it could be possible to choose poi, directions or both.
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Rob Williams Friday 26 Jul 2019 14:20:11
Thanks John, sounds good. And thanks Peter for that list!
The turn/symbol conflict is probably unlikely in actual use? I can think of two use cases for someone manually adding in CoursePoints:
- The user is entering all direction and additional information in the form of coursepoints, and does not intent to use build-in turn-by-turn guidance from the device.
- The users is adding additional information only, and will use the devices turn-by-turn
If 2, the coursepoints manually added will only be symbols.
If 1, the user is unlikely to want to try and combine a turning with a symbol becuase Garmin devices at least couldn't cope with it - they only access a single symbol per coursepoint. When I used this approach, on the very rare occassions it was necessary I'd set the symbol ahead of the turn, eg:
- -100m: WARNING "Cttl grd after turn"
- -10m: RIGHT TURN "RT Green Ln"
- 0m, the actual turn, which didn't take a course point.
- 10m, the cattle grid, ditto.
