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    Colin Hoppe   Tuesday 15 Jan 2019 18:03:16

    Really like the layers menu !  Road bikeable layer looks like a really good idea. 

    In December, I plotted umpteeen routes in Lanzarote but I wasn't really sure about the surface of some "roads".

    I'll be going there next week, so on the assumption that the road bikeable layer works for Lanzarote, I shall now check them before I go.

     

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    Happy New Year Trevor ...

     

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    Jose Manuel Valverde   Saturday 05 Jan 2019 18:12:19

    It's true that till now it was possible to overlay the "bike paths" above the "paths map", and now the "paths map" is switched to OSM. But for me this is a minor loss as I can find the same look and feel as before with the Cycle Map (without the cycle maps layer, which is redundant).

    Really, I don't understand where is your problem Trevor. I find the site is improving the way we can plan our routes in a quite nice way.

    Keep on the good job John.

    Jose Manuel

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    plotaroute admin   Wednesday 02 Jan 2019 17:53:22

    I’m at a loss what to say Trevor. You can still toggle between the Paths map and the Cycle map if you wish - its only one mouse click to do this - so I’m really struggling to understand what you feel has been lost with this upgrade.

    Clearly you are unhappy so if you would rather cancel your membership let me know and I can arrange this.

    Apologies again for causing any problems.

    John

     

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    Trevor Andrews   Wednesday 02 Jan 2019 17:40:02

    Sorry I must be wrong and you must be right.

    Obviously my use of this site does not match what you believe to be the only way that it should be used. I default to using Paths Maps because in the country I am currently this is by far and away the best map option, in some cities I will occassiionaly decide to overlay the cycle paths. That you now seem to acknowlege was always possible and remains possible.

    The lesson I have learnt today and hopefully anyone reading this who is considering upgrarding their membership, is that this is not a forum for feedback but one where users can expect the scorn of the site owner for questioning anything.

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    plotaroute admin   Wednesday 02 Jan 2019 17:10:24

    I'm sorry you feel that way Trevor - we are only doing our best to improve the site. I'm afraid I don't see how there are more mouse clicks involved to access the OSM Cycle maps now than before this latest update. You can just select the Cycle maps from the Map Types list with one click whereas previously you would have to first change to the Paths map and then select the Bike Paths option. The changes also mean that the OSM Cycle map will be loaded by default (with no mouse clicks at all) if it was the last map type you used.  This wasn't possible previously.

    We get a lot of requests for enhancements and have thousands of users so we try to take as much feedback into account as we can when making changes, but we recognise that it is not possible to please everyone all of the time.  I can only apologise if you feel that these latest changes are a backward step.

    John 

     

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    Trevor Andrews   Wednesday 02 Jan 2019 16:56:37

    Obviously as I am just an ignorant user of this site, all I can do is tell it as it is.  I have for many months happily selected "Paths Map" and then selected what was until today the additional overlay "Bike Paths" which would then render over the top of the "Paths Maps" cycle paths where they exist. How this was deleivered behind the scenes did not concern me.

    Even your own response confirms you have changed the way things work but you start your reply with the condescending "We haven't actually removed any features with this update"

    I would love to recommed this site but your continued cavalier attituide to updates makes that impossible

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    plotaroute admin   Wednesday 02 Jan 2019 16:42:35

    Hi Trevor,

    We haven't actually removed any features with this update - the Bike Paths layer was always only available with Google maps, as it isn't compatible with non-Google maps. Previously if you selected the Bike Paths layer while viewing an OSM based map we changed the map type to OSM Cycle maps. To make this less confusing we've now added OSM Cycle maps as a new base map option, so selecting this will display the OSM bike paths that you're referring to.

    I'm happy to look into the Street View issue that you mentioned if you can let me know the steps to consistently reproduce this.

    John

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    Trevor Andrews   Wednesday 02 Jan 2019 16:30:52

    In fact you appeared to have excelled yourselves and removed the ability to overlay "bike paths" over anything other than Google maps. What was previously an extremely useful feature where you could see bike paths overlayed on OSM is gone.

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    Trevor Andrews   Wednesday 02 Jan 2019 16:15:24

    "We're very pleased to announce another exciting new feature for our Premium members".....

     

    .......We have now added more key clicks if you want to show bike paths or Google Streetview coverage

     

    Does anyone who actually uses this site to plot cycle routes have any input to "features" you add that make the site more unusable?

    Perhaps you could fix the bug whereby when you toggle out of streetview you end up with a map somewhere in the southern ocean and nowhere near where the current route is being plotted before playing with features that actually worked before

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    plotaroute admin   Wednesday 02 Jan 2019 12:45:29

    Thanks for flagging this up Peter. The link should be working OK now.

    John

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