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Thanks Paul. We've corrected the link from this guide. The guide was about features on Plotaroute though - we don't tend to promote our competitors!

I think Strava Heat Maps deserves a mention on the Ten Great Route Planning Tools For Cyclists page. (I don't know why this comment is showing up on Label text into the name tag by file type export.)

Working perfectly now. Love it!

The truncation happens because our download process tries to avoid splitting words if possible e.g. leaving one trailing character at the end. However, maybe it would be better to just simply use the full 14 characters - we'll have a look at changing this. 

Was out yesterday and noticed that this has been updated. Great stuff.

Think I've found a small bug though. It appears that if the coursepoint name has more than 1 space, it is being truncated to before the second space regardless of the amount of characters. Coursepoints with 1 or no spaces seem to display the full 14 characters.

https://www.plotaroute.com/route/997783 as an example.

Excellent! Thank you. 

Great:)

Interestingly, we can see from using the new Garmin API, that coursepoint names are truncated to 14 characters by Garmin when routes are transferred to Garmin Connect, so we could probably safely increase the length of coursepoint names in FIT files from the current 10 characters to 14 characters - we'll add this to our To Do list. It doesn't make any difference whether it comes from the name tag or the notes tag when converting from TCX though, as both are extracted from the directions text of your route. 

For information, Fenix 6 can display a coursepoint name up to 15 characters max. Would it be possible for the fit generating library to take the coursepoint name form the <notes> field (truncated to 15 characters) instead of the <name> field when converting from tcx?

Some extra information is published here:

https://www.expertgps.com/

By item supported gps > Select your unit.

Find total characters in waypoints, description.

Example: 

Garmin Edge: Varies from 8 for old up to 32 characters for the most actual units.

Ok John.

As I can edit the exported gpx file (my most important format) quite well, no problem to keep export "as is". Tnks anyway for considering. Case closed.

Willy.

Unfortunately that would be significantly more work to implemement Willy. I think we would need to do some testing on different devices before we could increase the character limits, to be more sure about any potential impact. 

Quote: "I think people have reported problems in the past with longer names in GPX files but we can trial it with a 21 character limit to see how that goes"

To prevent troubles (older gps units) I suggest to keep the automatic generated direction name text tags unchanged to the actual character limit.

It would be sufficent to extend name text only manual by the Point Edit "Label Panel". A colorised Label Panel (first post) indicates limits for used file type. Roger ?  

@ John.

Source:

Posted by Dom McIntyre Wednesday 28 Aug 2019 10:53:49

https://www.plotaroute.com/posts/102/D/1

(I did not have a look into the very complicated docs)

Is 16 max an advise ? Or is there no (technical) limitation ?  

Sorry, misunderstood it for course name when you where talking about course point description/name.

Hi Willy - I think people have reported problems in the past with longer names in GPX files but we can trial it with a 21 character limit to see how that goes. Do you have a link to the documentation that says names in FIT files can be up to 16 characters long?

Nice that you like the Plotaroute file name result, but this is about the name tagging in Coursepoints (gpx=wpt).

By Plotaroute @ file export the tcx and fit Coursepoint (gpx=wpt) name limitation is 10 characters. For tcx is the standard, but can be extended as suggested for fit (16) and gpx wpt (no limit) (rwgps anyway recommands 21 max). By the Point Label edit Panel @ file export the name tag can be individualised, but this seems ONLY to be effective for gpx ! Anyway still has that same 10 character limit.

Examples: Individual Point Edit Panel.

By tcx.

<CoursePoint>

<Name>0123456789</Name>

<Time>2020-02-27T00:01:37Z</Time>

<Position>

<LatitudeDegrees>51.0540266</LatitudeDegrees>

<LongitudeDegrees>4.0002026</LongitudeDegrees>

</Position>

<PointType>Generic</PointType>

<Notes>0123456789ABCDEF012345890ABCDEF</Notes>

</CoursePoint>

By fit.  (Binary extract = name)

0123456789 

By gpx.

<wpt lat="51.0540266" lon="4.0002026">

<time>2020-02-27T00:01:37Z</time>

<name>TEXT IN NA</name>

<cmt>0123456789ABCDEF012345890ABCDEF</cmt>

<desc>0123456789ABCDEF012345890ABCDEF</desc>

<sym>Flag, Blue</sym>

</wpt>

From plotaroute generated fit files, I now have one route with 32 char name and several others with 30-31 char names in my fenix 6x.

It's really great that I can differentiate similar routes with words that I understand than use code like abbreviations. 

https://www.plotaroute.com/tip/33/ten-great-route-planning-tools-for-cyclists

Item: 5. Abbreviated Route Directions & Prevent truncated textlabels.

Suggestion:

Leave text space at file export into the name tag, depending on file type.

tcx file: Max 10 character.

fit file: Max 16 character.

gpx file: No limit but, advised is 21 max.

Label panel @ edit.