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I go Munro bagging.  I want to add the Munro peaks plus othe things like river crossings and ridge drop offs to my routes so that when I export them my Garmin watch wll give me distance to the next waypoint when I'm walking the route.  I can't plot a route using waypoints because most of the walks haven't got any paths on the map so auto-routing either fails or makes me walk miles out of my way on paths that don't go where I want them to go. 

I've found labels - but these just seem to be just that - labels that I can put anywhere on the map as opposed to waypoints along the actual route which Garmin will recognize as Waypoints in the navigational sense.  

Is it possible to do this or have I just wasted £20?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Turn auto-plotting off and click the map to go where you want to go in a straight line. You then have total control of yor chosen path. Add your waypoints ("directions") accordingly.

@Mark. Sorry, I don't understand.  Are you saying that labels are the same as waypoints?  If so, then how do I add them to the course as opposed to just a location on the map?

@Mark.  I just tried this.  I created a short course from my house with all auto plot turned of and I added two labels to it.  When I synch it with Garmin the labels don't appear as waypoints on the course either on the Garmin Connect website or on the Garmin watch when I synch the route to it.  Is there no way to add proper waypoints to a route?

I came here to ask the exactly same question. I have previously been using the Ordnance Survey app to create routes and download them to my Garmin Instinct (this doesn't have proper maps, just a breadcrumb trail of the route) and I'd use a printed map. I now have a Garmin Fenix 7s with the Talkytoaster maps so I want to improve the information on my watch about upcoming directions and information. Like Boo, I haven't been able to find any instructions all in one place about how to do this in Plotaroute.

Here's what I've managed to do so far:

• I created a route in Plotaroute
• I clicked on "Dir'ns" in the righthand panel
• I deleted all of the automatically generated directions (I'll allow Garmin Connect to add these instead)
• I added a couple of directions to the route (these are what you're calling waypoints I think)
• I chose the symbol in Plotaroute accoring to this list: https://www.plotaroute.com/posts/3112/D/1 (I've just used "info so far")
• I downloaded the rote from Plotaroute as a FIT file and imported this into Garmin Connect
• I checked on Garmin Connect and my directions from Plotaroute had correctly appeared as Coursepoints 
• I sent the route to my watch and the route appeared correctly with the Coursepoints showing in the "Up Ahead" screen. The labels were visible on the watch's map.

I'm only using the free version of Plotaroute at the moment whilst I work out whether I want to move from the OS product.

I'm also climbing the Munros. Just back from climbing Am Basteir and Mullach na Dheiragain, with seven left to go.

Hope this helps.

I just typed a detailed reply to your question but for some reason it was flagged as spam. Whilst that is being moderated, the short answer is yes you can do exactly what you're trying to.

Boo Ids,

Have you seen How To Add Labels And Symbols To A Route Map? That may help.

In your case, just create the route "manually" (auto-plot off) and add the "directions" to the route. 

@Mark.  I can add labels and symbols to the map OK but when I synch with my Garmin account the labels do not appear.

"Labels" or "directions"?

Can you attached a screenshot?

I transfer to a Garmin Edge, but have no experience with the watches. However, Tim indicates it works OK.

@Mark.  I just add labels.  As far as I know I don't add directions, certainly not knowingly (I don't want directions).  I can't add a screenshot here cos there's no way to upload one from my PC.   What I do is edit the route, click on "Annotate Map" and get a box that says "`ADD SYMBOLS AND LABELS TO THE MAP" which wants a name, symbol and colour with a then add a coloured symbol with a name to the map on top of the route line.  

@Mark - I've just checked the directions.  There are no directions on the route, but that's OK because I don't want them.  I just want waypoints so that my Garmin watch shows the distance to the next bealach, summit, bridge, or whatever features I've added to the course.

...also, is there a way to make this forum default to oldest first?

@Mark

Here's the route

https://www.plotaroute.com/route/2966854

OK - I've figured it out although having done so it's not much better than Garmin Connect for adding waypoints - which is not a ringing endorsement.  I've only tested it on a Garmin Instinct.

For anyone else who comes here confused about adding waypoints** which will appear on Garmin Instinct (and possibly other Garmin watches) here's what I did to make it work. My use-case is Munro Bagging.

1. Plot your route.  I did it with a combination of auto on foot   (for where there are paths) and auto off.  You have to be a bit careful with this to avoid straight-lining everything, but it can be made to work.
2. Once the route is plotted and saved and still in edit mode hit the "DIR'NS" button at the RHS of the edit screen.
3. In the Directions/Notes panel top left click "ADD"
4. Move the "edit" box along the route to where you want a waypoint.  
5. Click "Add Directions Here" in the Directions box top left.
6. In the "Label" box type the name of the waypoint.  You can also add a label and colour, but these are irrelevant for the Garmin Instinct cos it's B&W.  It might work for other, more expensive, watches.  I don't think the "Directions/Notes" is relevant for the Garmin Instinct but I just repeated the name of the waypoint to be safe.
7. Repeat for all the waypoints you want

Now, when you synch the route with Garmin the "directions" labels will appear as course points and when you synch them with a Garmin Instinct they will appear as waypoints**

**There might be other formal, technical, local or pedantic definitions of "waypoint" but when I use "waypoint" here I mean something that appears on the Garmin Instinct as a waypoint (WPT) and can be added to a field on the watch such as "distance to next wpt" or "time to next wpt".  

Thanks to all who tried to help.  It's been a good, friendly introduction to the forum.  Happy trails.  

Great, that's what the How To Add Labels And Symbols To A Route Map? advises.

You are trying to do something which is pretty manual, routing where there are no paths, adding "waypoints" for specific places. If you find anything that will do this "automatically", please post back!

I can't add a screenshot here cos there's no way to upload one from my PC. 

Just copy/paste a screenshot (probably best to crop first) .... 

The process you followed is pretty much what I recommended in my missing post 😂. For my Garmin Instinct I decided a while back not to bother trying to get meaningful waypoints on it - just too much faff for me. I prefer instead to use it in combination with a paper map. For my new Fenix I'm interested in seeing if I can use waypoints in a more sophisticated way but at the moment, like you found, it's looking like it will be a lot of effort.

Unfortunately the turn-by-turn directions that Garmin Connect can add automatically are a bit of a pain, for example when going up a zigzag path when there are alerts on the watch every few metres. 

Tim: For my new Fenix I'm interested in seeing if I can use waypoints in a more sophisticated way...

If you have paths/roads on the map and use auto-plotting (N/A for @boo), then you get most of the directions automatically, but no other fancy editing of 'waypoints' that @boo described. To avoid all Garmin changing of course-points/directions, then copy the fit file manually to watch or wirelessly with the Gexporter mobile app (only Android) and the Gimporter/GRouteLoader watch CIQ app.

If you have a Garmin watch that supports the up-ahead feature, then you can get many of the Garmin watch symbols if you use the plotaroute counterparts. See this table for help. (unfortunately, not possible to paste here anymore due to size limitations here in forum (please increase)).

Another thing you can also do with plotaroute is to fill the 'Saved Locations' in the watch with BOTH your Labels and Direction course points.
Create a dummy route and plot Labels off route or Course points in the direction list. Then download it as a GPX Track with POI's as Waypoints.
You need to manually copy the gpx file to the NewFiles folder on the watch.

'Saved locations' in the watch can be used for Waypoint navigation either with the use map or direct navigation, or just to show them on the watch map.
Maybe too much work for some, but useful in some use cases.

Thanks Peter. I'm still experimenting to find what works best for me. I'll post my workflow when I've found something I'm happy with.

Plotaroute has taken me a while to get used to but I'm blown away by its functionality. Brilliant.